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I would like to propose a variant of this. The real issue, I think, is duplicating a set of tags.


What I find myself constantly doing, during the course of research on a given subject, is I clip a webpage, then I proceed to edit it, notably by giving it a set of tags. Then I clip another page, and many times the very same set of tags would be relevant. So I need to :


  • Open the previous note.
  • Position the cursor in the tag field.
  • Select All.
  • Copy the previous set of tags.
  • Right-click on the freshly clipped note, Tag.
  • Paste the previously copied set of tags.


It's perfectly doable, but it strikes me that there is not a Copy Tags and Paste Tags set of commands in the right-click menu, similar to the Copy Note Link / Paste operation, which would ease the workflow.


Of course, this would make for longer menus, so maybe a slight downgrade in simplicity -- always a trade-off.

What would that do ? Click a button, clip a Web page in an archive format ? I'm all for it, so I'll give a positive vote, but I will qualify it thus :


> That would be terrific, what I've been looking for all along, etc. The only reason I'm not using Evernote (or One Note) is cost and lack of privacy (plus Evernote is not that intuitive, foolproof or reliable, according to reports I've seen).


> However, the present mode of clipping, with rich text and hyperlinks, needs to stay.


> I suppose this would be a big project (if at all possible), so it should not alter the inherent simplicity and speed of CN.


Apart from that, yes, it would be a huge advancement. There's currently no satisfying way to archive a Web page :


> Bookmarks can go dead over time, and browsers' bookmark managers are rotten anyway.


> There used to be good archival formats around, but this is disappearing with the near-extinction of Internet Explorer, and introduction of Web Extensions in Firefox.


> You can always use Archive.org, and even force archival there of any Web page you want to keep, but retrieval is not particularly user-friendly, and you always need to rely on a third party.

Citavi seems very interesting, but it's also very expensive. It starts at 120 € ("personal and student use"), then grows at 240 € (for non-profit organisations !) and even 360 € (for businesses). The free version can only hold 100 references, so it is a trial version, really.


If your work involves scraping many pdfs off the Web and referencing them, you might look up Docear and Zotero, both of them free and academically-oriented. I decided against them for various reasons (not high DPI-aware, Docear seemingly not very actively developed, Zotero having a cramped and somewhat complex interface), but the idea is interesting. Zotero seems to have an active environment.

Fun fact : when you try to delete those spaces by positioning the cursor to the right, then hitting Backspace, it's the useful character on the left of the space which gets deleted. Selecting both the leading character and the space next to it, then typing over, does the trick.

I have also noticed this, although I can't be as specific as the OP as to what triggers the extra spaces (parenthesis, etc) : clipping text from a Web page to a note will sometimes add one space in the middle of a word, at different places in the note. I haven't noticed that parenthesis, brackets and such were needed for that, although I haven't tried to reproduce the bug to define it precisely.

Thank you for your quick answer, Alex. I guess this won't be for me since I don't have a Pro licence.

It's great to be warned personally when this is implemented !


I just upgraded, and have noticed that while copying and pasting into an existing note does carry the links over now, it does not occur when creating a new note through Ctrl + F12. Is that expected behaviour ?

This would be an absolutely fundamental feature. It's sorely lacking for my personal use. I mostly use CN as a knowledge manager, to file and index articles from the Web. Before that, I either bookmarked the article in Firefox (which is not good enough at indexing and search, and is useless in case the page disappears from the Web), or saved the Web page in mht, mhtml or (sometimes) maff format, when I wanted to be absolutely sure to find it again.


Saving in those formats is great because they preserve practically 100 % of what's useful, and still don't take much place. However, proper indexing does not exist with that method. Often I had to do both : bookmark the link, and save the page ; using different software, which further slows down operations.


CN brings indexing and easier search to the process, but many articles have a lot of hyperlinks which are at least as useful as the article itself.


I can live with the images not being saved in CN (although it definitely cripples the product's abilities), but the stripping of links is much more problematic.


I just had to save a Web article twice : one time in CN, to conform with my workflow, and another as mht under Windows Explorer, in order to preserve the links. And then, I had to create a link from the CN note to the mht file on my disk !


Clearly, this can be done from time to time, but if one had to do it regularly, it would completely break the fast clipping workflow which makes CN stand out from other tools.